Newps wrote:
Kev wrote:
Of course, sometimes pilots *do* forget... thus the number of take-off
accidents caused by the trim being in the wrong place. Yes, at the
last second they feel the extra control force coming in, but it's too
late.

Maybe in jets or King Air's but not spam cans.

Unclear. What are you claiming doesn't happen in small planes? No
out-of-trim takeoff accidents? Obviously that's incorrect. That
pilots notice the mistake in time to prevent the accident? Also
obviously not the case. That jets can't feel control forces?

Heck, think of all the times a pilot tries to take off with the
control-locks in place. If they realized what was happening in time
(and took action), there'd be no such accidents.

Kev