Maxwell wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Morgans wrote:
As impressive as it is, what good do those types of moves do a
warbird? Nothing, I think.

Face it, this is a "shoot and kill before you see me" kind of
environment, now. Fighters don't play Snoopy and the Red Baron
anymore.


That is almost exactly what was said when when the F4 was designed
without guns. It didn't work out that way.


Yeah, but in all fairness, wasn't that about 45 years ago?

Sure it was. But sh!t happens, especially in combat. And while shooting the
other guy down 100 miles away before he even knows you are there works real
well for defending a CVN during all out shooting war. It doesn't take a lot
of imagination to come up with a scenario where pilots aren't allowed to use
those long range weapons and are forced into a good old fashioned dog fight.