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Old January 22nd 07, 12:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Viperdoc[_4_]
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Default Boundaries between Approach/Departure and Center

Newps:

Sorry, I was sending some poorly disguised cynicism to the village idiot,
hoping he would go away.

I am aware of the LOAs and general ATC structure.

Thanks.
"Newps" wrote in message
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Viperdoc wrote:

They are generally considered confidential, although you may obtain the
information under the freedom of information act.


They aren't confidential. If they were I would know, some documents and
information is and we are told that. These aren't. It's not really
useful information if I gave you a map of the various boundaries.
Individual sectors within centers and approach controls are combined and
decombined at regular and irregular intervals. Plus any two controllers
can get together and agree to do just about anything for a given amount of
time, thus making any published boundaries irrelavant. We do that
virtually every night with Salt Lake center. The call goes like this,
from the ZLC controller to the BIL approach controller....."Down to 9 til
5?" I answer..."Yep." Thus circumventing months and months of careful
planning and negotiating between untold numbers of high level management
and their staffs. Our letter of agreement states that all IFR aircraft
will be at or descending to 13,000. That's too constricting so center
wants approval to go down to 9,000 and they don't want to call for each
one and I certainly don't want to have to answer a call for each request.
So I could show you many maps of carefully drawn boundaries but they are
almost never used in that manner.