You can agree all you want, but to log PIC you must be the
sole manipulator of the controls unless you also hold a
valid CFI.


61.51
(c) Logging of pilot time. The pilot time described in this
section may be used to:

(1) Apply for a certificate or rating issued under this part
or a privilege authorized under this part; or

(2) Satisfy the recent flight experience requirements of
this part.

(d) Logging of solo flight time. Except for a student pilot
performing the duties of pilot in command of an airship
requiring more than one pilot flight crewmember, a pilot may
log as solo flight time only that flight time when the pilot
is the sole occupant of the aircraft.

(e) Logging pilot-in-command flight time. (1) A sport,
recreational, private, or commercial pilot may log
pilot-in-command time only for that flight time during which
that person-

(i) Is the sole manipulator of the controls of an aircraft
for which the pilot is rated or has privileges;

(ii) Is the sole occupant of the aircraft; or

(iii) Except for a recreational pilot, is acting as pilot in
command of an aircraft on which more than one pilot is
required under the type certification of the aircraft or the
regulations under which the flight is conducted.

(2) An airline transport pilot may log as pilot-in-command
time all of the flight time while acting as pilot-in-command
of an operation requiring an airline transport pilot
certificate.

(3) An authorized instructor may log as pilot-in-command
time all flight time while acting as an authorized
instructor.

(4) A student pilot may log pilot-in-command time only when
the student pilot-

(i) Is the sole occupant of the aircraft or is performing
the duties of pilot of command









"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
...
| On 01/22/07 05:22, Jim Macklin wrote:
| Second in command time, only a CFI can log PIC when they
are
| not actually sole manipulator of the controls.
|
| What? Can you please show the regulation that stipulates
this?
| I've never seen it.
|
|
| Be honest, you are only required while the hood is on.
|
| That depends on the agreement made by the pilots ahead of
time. If
| they both agree that the safety pilot shall be PIC, then
he can log
| it that way - for the entire flight. Of course, to do
this, the safety
| pilot must be qualified to be PIC (if he doesn't have a
complex endorsement,
| he can't be PIC in a complex airplane for example).
|
| However, if the pilot flying is PIC, the safety pilot is
required only
| while the pilot flying has a view limiting device on, and
should log
| SIC only for that time.
|
|
|
|
|
| "kevmor" wrote in message
|
ups.com...
| | When logging safety pilot time, what do you put under
the
| "duration of
| | flight" column? For example, say I'm flying with a
friend
| who is
| | wearing a hood. We decided I'll be responsible for
the
| flight before
| | hand. I can log PIC for the time the other person had
the
| hood on, and
| | under the "total flight time" column, put the same as
the
| PIC/when he
| | was wearing the hood?
| |
| | Someone told me once if the person wore the hood most
of
| the flight,
| | you could log the "flight time" for the entire flight,
| because you were
| | a required crew member. But once he takes it off
though,
| you aren't
| | required...so I'm thinking it's the same as the PIC
time.
| |
|
|
|
|
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| --
| Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
| Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
| Sacramento, CA