On 01/22/07 11:24, Jim Macklin wrote:
You can agree all you want, but to log PIC you must be the
sole manipulator of the controls unless you also hold a
valid CFI.

Not according to the regs you just copied. See below:

For this purpose we're talking about the non-flying pilot
performing safety pilot duties for the flying pilot. If both
pilots agree that the non-flying pilot will be the PIC...



61.51
(c) Logging of pilot time. The pilot time described in this
section may be used to:

(1) Apply for a certificate or rating issued under this part
or a privilege authorized under this part; or

(2) Satisfy the recent flight experience requirements of
this part.

(d) Logging of solo flight time. Except for a student pilot
performing the duties of pilot in command of an airship
requiring more than one pilot flight crewmember, a pilot may
log as solo flight time only that flight time when the pilot
is the sole occupant of the aircraft.

(e) Logging pilot-in-command flight time. (1) A sport,
recreational, private, or commercial pilot may log
pilot-in-command time only for that flight time during which
that person-

(i) Is the sole manipulator of the controls of an aircraft
for which the pilot is rated or has privileges;

The non-flying pilot is not sole manipulator of the controls, so
he can't log PIC as a result of this section.


(ii) Is the sole occupant of the aircraft; or

The non-flying pilot is not the sole occupant either...


(iii) Except for a recreational pilot, is acting as pilot in
command of an aircraft on which more than one pilot is
required under the type certification of the aircraft or the
regulations under which the flight is conducted.

He is acting as PIC of an aircraft on which more than one pilot
is required by the regulations under which the flight is conducted
(the pilot flying is using a view limiting device, which now
requires the second pilot).

Note that I'm not suggesting the pilot not flying can log PIC for
the entire flight; only that portion which meets the above regs.

--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA