You ignored my reasoned statements, so I said your statement
was BS. I stand by that.

All the rules you cite require that to LOG PIC you must be
the pilot flying. Yes, you are looking, you are a safety
pilot. You are required to be there because the single
pilot can't see outside. But unless the guy under the hood
is just sitting there while YOU do the flying, YOU can't LOG
PIC unless you hold a CFI or the flight is an airline
training flight and you're the assigned PIC.

Just because a second pilot is required by 91.109 does not
make that pilot time logable as PIC unless they are the sole
manipulator.
It is very possible that neither pilot can log PIC, but the
FAA will insist that at least one of them will be held
responsible as PIC even if they can't log it.

A safety pilot who is not a CFI should log that time as SIC
because that is what it is. Required crew member not
manipulating the controls.



"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| BS
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| Well there's a reasoned and intelligent comment backed up
with facts.
| 61.51(2)(iii), 61.52(3), and 61.51(4) all provide for
logging PIC
| when acting as PIC. In this case 61.51(2)(iii) applies as
the flight
| is conducted under 61.109(2) which requires a second
pilot.