Hmm... but then doesn't that seem kind of far fetched if you decide
before takeoff the safety pilot will be PIC, then the other person
wears the hood for .3 hours, the safety pilot can log the entire
flight, maybe 5 hours, as towards their total time? I wonder if any
examiner would question logging that much time? I could say, "hey,
wear this for a few minutes", then we both log the total time.

On Jan 23, 7:05 am, Mark Hansen wrote:
On 01/23/07 04:56, Ron Rosenfeld wrote:



On 21 Jan 2007 19:22:35 -0800, "kevmor" wrote:

When logging safety pilot time, what do you put under the "duration of
flight" column? For example, say I'm flying with a friend who is
wearing a hood. We decided I'll be responsible for the flight before
hand. I can log PIC for the time the other person had the hood on, and
under the "total flight time" column, put the same as the PIC/when he
was wearing the hood?

Someone told me once if the person wore the hood most of the flight,
you could log the "flight time" for the entire flight, because you were
a required crew member. But once he takes it off though, you aren't
required...so I'm thinking it's the same as the PIC time.

According to my interpretation of 61.51, you would log as "total flight
time" the time from when the a/c begins moving for the purpose of flight,
until the time when it stops moving.

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14 CFR 1.1

Flight time means:

(1) Pilot time that commences when an aircraft moves under its own power
for the purpose of flight and ends when the aircraft comes to rest after
landing;

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14 CFR 61.51

b) Logbook entries. For the purposes of meeting the requirements of
paragraph (a) of this section, each person must enter the following
information for each flight or lesson logged:

(ii) Total flight time or lesson time.

...

(2) Type of pilot experience or training?

(i) Solo.

(ii) Pilot in command.

(iii) Second in command.

...
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In the scenario you cite, *IF* you meet all of the requirements to *ACT* as
PIC (currency, ratings, endorsements, etc), then, given your agreement with
the pilot flying, you may log PIC time for that part of the flight during
which the pilot flying is "under the hood". If you do not have the
appropriate endorsements, you may log that time as SIC time.

You may not log either PIC or SIC time during that period when the pilot
flying is NOT under the hood (assuming the pilot flying is qualified to act
as PIC).
Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)But ... and I hadn't considered this until now... you would still log the
entire flight time as "total flight time" even though the amount of time
logged under PIC, SIC or both is less than the total.

--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA