On 01/28/07 15:58, bsalai wrote:
Ron Rosenfeld wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:05:16 -0800, Mark Hansen
wrote:

But ... and I hadn't considered this until now... you would still log the
entire flight time as "total flight time" even though the amount of time
logged under PIC, SIC or both is less than the total.

That's what I thought I had written.
Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

Are you sure about logging the second in command time?

61.51 says:

...
(f) Logging second-in-command time. A person may log second-in-command
flight time only for that flight time during which that person:
(1) Is qualified in accordance with the second-in-command requirements
of Sec. 61.55 of this part, and occupies a crewmember station in an
aircraft that requires more than one pilot by the aircraft's type
certificate; or
(2) Holds the appropriate category, class, and instrument rating (if an
instrument rating is required for the flight) for the aircraft being
flown, and more than one pilot is required under the type certification
of the aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is being
conducted.

In both cases, it seems to require that the time be in an aircraft that
requires more than one pilot by the aircraft's type certificate.

No. In number 2 above, it says:

"... required under the type certificate of the aircraft *or* the
regulations under which the flight..."

When the pilot flying is wearing a view limiting device, the regulations
require that the safety pilot be present.


That isn't the case in any of the aircraft I fly as safety pilot, so,
I'd say if you are not PIC, you can't log the time as SIC. Maybe you can
log it as something else?

Brad



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Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
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