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Old February 23rd 07, 03:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Low fuel emergency in DFW

"Peter Dohm" wrote

My question is this: Does anyone here have a working link to either the
audio tape of the incident or a transcript of the tape?

My justification for asking is that "phraseology" is a frequent topic of
lecture and discussion at Wings Seminars, and I and curious as to what was
actually said. IFAIK, there only two or three ways to say "emergency"

plus
one additional way to say "fuel critical"--none of which were specifically
quoted in any of the links which I was able to find.


I was looking for something like that too, also to see if the crew ever
really declared an emergency using the proper phraseology. I couldn't find
a transcript either, so there is some gray area here.

Remember the jet (747 I think) that crashed on Long Island a few years ago
after running out of fuel? That had alot to do with the fact that the crew
never properly declared an emergency. They kept saying something like low
fuel or critical fuel, but never used the word "emergency" IIRC.

As an aside, a few years ago a pilot flying a twin lost an engine and was
inbound to the airport for landing. The controllers asked him if he was
declaring an emergency and he said no. As he got closer a conflict
developed and guess what, the twin was told to go around. No emergency
(properly declared) = no priority.

BDS