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Old March 2nd 07, 06:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Mxsmanic
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Jay B writes:

Don't care if it's due to budget or capacity. It still lacks
fidelity. It does not model every aspect of every plane offered.


Why do you require that every aspect of every plane be modeled?

It's exactly what it's meant for...scenery doesn't matter at all.


There you have it, then. No sense spending many processor cycles and screen
space on scenery if you don't need it.

It is in visual flight.


No, it's not. That's why it's called "visual" flight, and not "tactile"
flight. If you cannot see in visual flight, you crash, no matter what
sensations you feel. Conversely, if you can see in visual flight, you don't
need sensations.

It can be your friend or it can
kill you but it cannot be ignored nor discarded.


I don't see how it can be your friend, since it's useless and misleading
unless you also have visual input or instruments to actually give you the
information you need. And you can most definitely ignore it, otherwise
instrument flight wouldn't be possible.

Actually, those who know me know that I am a devout worshiper at the
high alter of flight. I've been an aviation buff all my life (well
before I earned my wings) and I extoll it's virtues to any and all who
will listen. I make every effort to offer my non-flying friends the
opportunity to ride along in the hope that they will catch the bug and
want to get their own certificate.


That's not what I said. I said that you don't care about someone who is
interested in aviation, not that you aren't interested in it yourself.

As for ego, when it comes to being a pilot, I have 147 hours of total
flight time. There are pilots on these boards with over 10,000 hours +
... the difference between you and me is that I know when to shut
my mouth, open my ears and listen.


The difference between you and me is 147 hours. The difference between you
and the other pilots of whom you speak is 9,853 hours. In other words, you're
essentially a non-pilot on this scale, just like me. But I suppose you'll
claim that the first hour makes all the difference, and the other 9,999 hours
are unimportant.

Doesn't mean I have to agree or believe everything they
post but it doesn mean that they deserve their due by shear weight of
numbers. It's called respect. A concept with which you are so
obviously unfamiliar with.


I respect people who have demonstrated their worthiness of respect. I don't
respect anyone by default, and numbers and credentials don't count, as I long
ago discovered that they are only very loosely correlated with things worthy
of respect. You can have 9000 hours of experience, or you can have 100 hours
ninety times over.

So that's what this is all about, eh? You feel left out of the club?


No, I'm not interested in clubs. I'm interested in aviation. If anything,
having to join a club just to fly would put me off.

No you don't. You argue, defy and generally **** on anyone and
everyone.


I argue because I have often verified, and found discrepancies for which I
need explanations. I question answers and expect the answers to be
substantiated. If someone simply says "because I say so," I know that he
doesn't know what he is talking about.

And when they do, you **** on them some more.


No. They don't support the statements, in the majority of cases. Instead,
they become emotional and angry, and insist that I must believe them just
because they said so. The more I uncover their actual ignorance of the topic,
the more irritated and aggressive they become. But I am not distracted by
this, as I've seen it thousands of times before.

Yet you persist in asking questions which generally be unanswerable in
a forum populated largely by GA pilots?


I was hoping there would be more pilots of other types. There still may be.
The handful of vocal posters aren't necessarily representative, they're just
loud.

Do you really thing you'll get operational details for a 747-400 from
a group that is predominently concerned with Cessnas, Pipers and the like?


I haven't found a more likely group on USENET. Do you know of one?

Wow, thanks for bringing me back to center. I really need to control
those irrational outbursts directed at completely anonymous people.


It's often just a question of practice, although personality plays a role.

Really?


Yes.

You mean you couldn't learn anything from aviation web
sites? From the FAA, AOPA and/or EAA?


Ah, I suppose that applies. I only glanced at the list once your intent
became apparent. So that's two out of all statements. Why is every other
statement "Learns to say Thank You"? What does that have to do with aviation?

From the information provided by other, more experienced pilots?


Like pilots with a staggering 147 hours, you mean? Three weeks of experience?

And there you go with the ego thing again... How, praytell, is it
possible to maintain this mythical "club" you carry on about when
usenet is the most egalitarian communcicative device ever conceived?


It isn't. That's part of what irritates the people who want to do so. They
come to believe that a newsgroup is their turf, and then when they are
reminded that anyone can use USENET and all are equal, they become irritated.

No one has said you can't post here. You are free to do as you
please...but so is everyone else.


Thank goodness.

If you are perceived as being a
pariah, or if you feel particularly persecuted, then perhaps you
should look inward before lashing out.


I don't care how I'm perceived. I just like to discuss aviation.

Again with the ego boost?


Yes. Most of the conflicts boil down to that to some extent.

You realize don't you that you could be the second coming
of Wilbur Wright, but unless you've walked the walk, all the talk in
the world is never going to earn you one iota of respect here ...


I don't care about getting respect here. I don't have an ego to maintain. I
just come here to discuss aviation.

... so long as you continue to boast, brag and otherwise browbeat
people here without ever having moved even an inch off Terra Firma
as a pilot?


Whereas, say, 147 hours would change everything (the next 10,000 wouldn't
matter, though).

Seriously, if you want to be Cock of the Rock, you need to take your
act where someone gives a damn.


See above. The way I'm perceived is unimportant. What is important is
discussions of aviation.

I coun't four specific references to ego.


Yes; ego is a problem for many here. It's the source of many conflicts.
People lash out when their egos are bruised, and if their egos are bigger than
their accomplishments, they become very emotional indeed.

Why thank you. They happen to be two of my best traits!


We all have good points. I'm told that they are among mine as well.

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