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Old March 11th 07, 01:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Maxwell
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Default Do you have to solo to get current?


"Judah" wrote in message
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"Maxwell" wrote in news6HIh.16227$TK5.12353
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No he would not. But no mater what you call him, if he is any kind of
quaified pilot, as opposed to a passenger, 61.57 does not apply. Because
61.57 is about carrying passengers.


If he ever intends to fly with passengers in the future, he may not use
three takeoffs and landings during a flight carrying non-required persons
or property to meet his currency requirement. That's pretty clear.


That's an interesting angle, but I don't think it would be correct. The way
I am reading it, if he has done three takeoffs and landings in the past 90
days under any circumstances, he is current to fly passengers.


I disagree with your definition of a passenger. But I'm not an authority.


Agreed, and this is the question if the hour so to speak.



However, the definition is suspicious to me because you qualify a non-
passenger pilot as anyone who holds a pilot certificate, and also is BFR
and Medical current.

Nothing in 61.23 says that a person needs a Medical in order to "be" a
pilot. Only to excercise the privileges of the pilot. Is "being" a pilot
instead of a passenger a privilege?

And nothing in 61.56 says that a person needs a BFR to "be" a pilot. One
need only have a BFR in order to act as Pilot in Command.


True, but to present himself to fly SIC, even in an aircraft that doesn't
required him, wouldn't he have to have his medical and BFR? The way I read
it he would. It looks to me like he would have to have everthing except the
3 t&ls in the past 90, to seek such currency, with or without another pilot
in the aircraft.

Additionally, 61.56 (h) specifically says that a BFR can be accomplished
in
combination with 61.57 at the discretion of the instructor. The
implication
to me is that if the rule were not there, and a pilot were to not be
current per 61.57, the instructor would have to be PIC for the flight, and
the pilot getting his BFR would have to kick the instructor out in order
to
meet 61.57.


That's interesting. I wonder if you need to have the instructor specify this
in his endorsement? I always thought 3 T&Ls in the past 90, was 3 T&Ls in
the past 90. I think I will check some of mine. I have always specifed I
wanted to cover that base when I take a BFR, and have always done the 3 T&Ls
at night when I take a BFR. But I don't recal any note from the instructor
indicating it was included. Just the T&Ls count for that line item in my
log.







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