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Old March 11th 07, 01:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Guillermo
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Default Do you have to solo to get current?

On Mar 11, 3:34 am, Judah wrote:
"Guillermo" wrote in news:1173585901.106379.264560
@n33g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

What you are saying here doesn't make any sense at all. The intent of
61.57 (2) is to allow somebody in an aircraft which requires more than
1 crewmember to regain their currency. For example, you have a non-
current pilot in a jet certified for more than one crewmember. He
cannot act as PIC per 61.57 (1) (talks also about aircraft for more
than one pilot). However, if he wants to regain currency, 61.57 (2)
allows him to act as a PIC of the aircraft in order to do his three
touch and goes, and allows to carry the required crewmember. But he
can only fly if the purpose of his flight is to get current.


But it doesn't specify anything in (1) or (2) that limits it to currency in a
jet certified for 2 crewmembers. It just says that if you want to fly a
mission for the purpose of being sole manipulator of the controls to regain
currency, you can be PIC of a plane in day VFR or IFR provided you're not
carrying anything aboard that is not necessary for the conduct of the flight.

As far as I can tell, that would mean that anytime you are out of currency,
you can't count a flight with passengers or non-required crewmembers toward
currency. If you are current, however, and take off and land with passengers,
crewmembers, packages, dogs, or elephants on the plane, you can count it. But
once you come out of currency, section (2) applies...


Well, it is not that you can't count the flight. You can't even DO the
flight legally with passengers if you are not current (I don't want to
start a discussion of whether elephants and dogs are passengers, so
lets focus now on the packages).
You have to remember the fact that in general the regulations tell you
what you CAN'T do, as opposed to what you CAN do. If the FARs tell
don't tell you that you can't do something, then you can do it.
If I am not-current in a C-152, I still can carry non-necessary
packages on board. There is no regulation than prevents me to do so.
61.57 (1) just talks about passengers. And 61.57 (2) never says that
somebody may not act as PIC with packages, just says that you MAY
conduct a flight if the flight is is done for the purpose of regaining
currency, and provided no elephants, passengers or packages are
carried. But remember that you can carry anything or anybody necessary
for the conduct of the flight. The only case you will be taking
advantage of 61.57 (2) is if you are in an aircraft certified for more
than 1 crewmember, because 61.57 (1) does not allow y ou to fly, but
61.57 (2) gives you authorization to do it only if your purpose is to
regain currency and certain conditions are met.