TheSmokingGnu wrote:
You'll get lots of people
that, for example, won't depart the pattern on the downwind (nearly had
a from-behind midair with someone in an experimental twice my speed
because he thought he could depart via the upwind),

What's wrong with departing via the upwind?

.... Alan
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Alan Gerber
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gerber AT panix DOT com