Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

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An idiotic comment.


A question, actually, seeking clarification of your previous statement.

It is still idiotic.

No one is going to follow any procedure that is basically unsafe.


Where's the conflict?


The ODP calls for a climbing right turn off of runway 6, the CCB noise
abatement procedure says "left turns only" and "no right departures".

One more time, the procedure you are talking about is the IFR
procedure. The CCB procedures are for VFR traffic.

The IFR procedure does not cause a safety conflict with any VFR
procedure. VFR traffic turns left, IFR right.

Runway 6 is designated left traffic in ALL official publications
including the AF/D.

Babbling nonsense.

The procedures are for VFR operations.


Is that because only VFR operations generate noise?

No, that is because, as someone pointed out, safety has a higher
priority than noise abatement.

The VFR procedure turns you towards slowly rising terrain and mountains
about 4 miles away.

If you are VFR, that is a non-issue since in VFR conditions you can
see the terrain and the mountains and make your East or West turn
miles before you get to them.

Under IFR conditions, you couldn't see the mountains and going North
would take you away from your first fix, i.e. the VORTAC the IFR
procedure turns you towards.

All the VFR traffic in the area that is not going through the class C
airspace follows a path about 2 miles South of the mountains, whether
they are going to CCB or not.

How can following a VFR landmark cause a crash?

The terrain to the South is downhill BTW.


Apparently I assumed you were a more experienced pilot than is the case. My
bad. Visiting a few of these sites should answer your question:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...Sear ch&gbv=2

I know all about scud running and it has nothing to do with what we
are talking about.

You are mearly trying to redirect the discussion because you have
nothing valid to say about the discussion topic, i.e. the VFR
procedures at CCB.

In any case, you aren't going to be able to scud run through the
rising terrain to the north as eventually you get to a mountain
range that averages 8-9 thousand feet.

And before you even try to bring it up, that mountain range is many
miles away and well out of the airport area.

Egotisical barracks lawyer crap.

The procedures at CCB have been proven to be safe by decades of use.


What is the proof?

Decades of safe operation by thousands of pilots.

Are you really that dense?

QED.

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Jim Pennino

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