On 2007-04-03 04:18, Sylvain wrote:
chris wrote:

In the US you need not be in sight of the surface for VFR.

Really?? But you gotta be clear of cloud, surely!!!

sure, but you can be flying over a wonderful undercast without
having to fly IFR (note: to do so you must have at least a
private certificate, students, recreational and sport pilots
must keep visual reference to the surface);

--Sylvain

What I recall, here in sweden, one also needs a minimum
of 100hrs logged to go on top of an overcast.
(Or undercast? Not seen 'UVC' in Metars yet.)