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Old August 20th 03, 11:16 PM
Tarver Engineering
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message

I think you are on to something, Ed.

Whenever I am dealing with Congressional staff, or high ups in USDOT, it

is
always a good laugh to compare academia's abstract view of the system and
how things really work. All that America's children are taught in

primary
school civics is a big joke. Some universities are capable of giving

some
insight, but the majority of such programs are only testimng to see how

well
the students can parrot the professor.


Excuse me, John, but how does dealing with Congressional staff or top
level bureaucrats in DOT give you any view at all about academia?


We are ll degreed folks and we know how divergent what is taught in school
is from reality.

When was the last time you were in a government/civics/political
science calss in "some universities"? Can you provide some basis for
the statement "such programs are only testimng (sic) to see how well
the students can parrot the professor"?


I had my political science instruction from a Black radical, but he had
reformed. As with many educated Blacks he was intrigued by my name.

Let me start by stating the obvious, that the reason the professor is
"the professor" is because he or she knows a bit more than the
students. Certainly a university is a place for develping thinking and
reasoning schools, but first the student must be well grounded in the
basics. Then, if they present a rational and well developed argument,
you can be certain that they are rewarded.


Well, actually no. What is taught in school is not the same as reality, but
there is much to be said for the ability to parrot the professor.

Although, come to think of it, you do present a compelling case that
America's citizens do get a sub-standard education. Many of your
statements support this contention.


Ed, how you could be teaching political science without knowing US history
is a mystery to me. There is the possibility that these United States would
just as soon academia be ignorant, as the People might be able to implement
change, were they awaere of reality.