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Old April 26th 07, 03:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
JB
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Default Anyone ever hear this from a controller

On Apr 26, 12:42 am, "Kobra" wrote:
Flyers,

I was flying IFR in VFR conditions and from NJ to Kissimmee, FL (KISM). As
I was approaching KISM the controller asked if I wanted to do a visual
approach or the ILS. Since I was in unfamiliar surroundings and wanted to
practice an ILS I said, "I'll take the ILS."

As I waited for the typical clearance of, "Cessna XXX, 5 miles from XYZ, fly
heading 180, maintain 2000 until established, cleared for the ILS XX
approach." I got, "Ok, just let me know when you want to start the
approach."

Huh!?! I didn't know what to do or say. I asked, "Do you want me to head
for the FAF?" Then another controller came on the frequency and said,
"Cessna XXX cleared for the ILS approach"

So I just headed for the FAF and began to intercept the localizer. The
controller than asked me what I was doing. I was so confused since they
were not using standard terminology. Thoughts anyone.

Kobra


When I do practice approaches in my local area (VFR or IFR), I often
get asked by the controller where I want to begin the approach (an
official IAF or radar vector to some intermediate point). Whenever
I'm not 110% sure the controller and I have the same expectations, I
always transmit that "Piper XXXX would like to begin the approach at
XYZ."

I have never heard what you describe. But in your case, and to avoid
ANY misunderstanding of what happens next, I would have responded
"Cessna XXXX is ready to begin the KISM ILS approach and would like to
start at XYZ. Can you provide radar vectors?" I would not just "head
for" the FAF without response from the controller.

--Jeff