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Old May 2nd 07, 10:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
Jack Linthicum
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Default VISUAL AIRCRAFT RECOGNITION

On May 2, 9:28 am, Paul Elliot wrote:
wrote:
On 26 Kwi, 06:15, "Flashnews" wrote:
Of all the attack birds the Su-22 Fitter H/G da da seems to have become
the THUD of the east and is still liked by pilots in former Communist
countries such as Poland that actually upgraded them. It had lots of
power, carries a lot, stable as hell in bombing, adapts to all kinds of
junk, handles well and maintains good. Not a digital cockpit but it was
one of the best before the MiG-29 came out.


Thanks for your kind words on our hardware. Actually, what Polish Air
Forces still fly is Su-22M4 Fitter K. The aircraft is like a dragster
lorry, needs quite a lot of space to make a turn, but indeed, can
carry quite a lot. Some Japanese visitors to one of the units back in
the mid-1990's were very surprised to see the only real avionics on
board is... the radar.


The Floggers / Fencers / Fitters and what have you have all been
replaced by the Sukhoi Su-27 family and for a while the MiG-29 had
trouble but now it is steaming ahead.


One more mistake in the manual: among the drawings in the manual I saw
only flat-nose MiG-23BM/MiG-27 version, as if large-nose variants
(e.g.MiG-23MF/ML/MLD) did not exist at all.


Best regards,
Jacek


Thanks Jacek,
Are the Polish Marines still deployed to southern Iraq? They really
kicked ass there! God bless them.

Paul

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Flag of Poland Poland - Currently, 900 non-combat troops from the
'First Warsaw Division', based at Camp Echo in Diwaniyah. Poland leads
the Multi-National Division (South Central) which consists of forces
from several other countries. In accordance with the decision of the
former Polish Minister of Defense Jerzy Szmajdziński, the number of
troops was reduced from 2,500 to 1,500 during the second half of 2005.
Poland's former leftist government, which lost September 25, 2005
elections, had planned to withdraw the remaining 1,500 troops in
January. However, the new defense minister, Radosław Sikorski, visited
Washington on December 3 for talks on Poland's coalition plans, and
Prime Minister Kazimierz Marcinkiewicz declared that he would decide
after the Iraqi elections on December 15, whether to extend its
troops' mandate beyond December 31.[18] On Tuesday 22 December, Prime
Minister Marcinkiewicz announced that he had asked President Lech
Kaczyński to keep Polish troops in Iraq for another year, calling it
"a very difficult decision."[19] On January 5, 2006, Polish troops
handed over control of the central Babil province to U.S. troops and
decided to remain on bases in Kut and Diwaniyah for the remainder of
their mandate,[20] cutting their contingent from 1,500 troops to 900
troops two months later,[21] and switching their main objective from
patrolling their sector to the training of Iraqi security forces.
Poland has lost 20 soldiers in Iraq: 14 in bombings or ambushes and 6
in various accidents. In July 2004, Al Zarqawi released a statement
threatening Japan, Poland and Bulgaria over their troop deployments.
He demanded of the Polish government 'Pull your troops out of Iraq or
you will hear the sounds of explosions that will hit your country.'
Hours later Prime Minister Marek Belka denied, and deputy Defence
Minister Janusz Zemke said pulling out would be a 'terrible mistake.'

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