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Old May 4th 07, 01:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
Vince
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Jack Linthicum wrote:
On May 4, 8:15 am, Vince wrote:
Derek Lyons wrote:
Vince wrote:
Jack Linthicum wrote:
On May 3, 4:12 pm, Paul Elliot wrote:
Vince wrote:
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/paul1cart/albums/
Vince is a lawyer, he thinks that if he says the same wrong thing over
and over that will eventually make it true or the listeners will be
asleep. The Air Force Cross given Major Anderson must have been a real
goof by the Air Force and Kennedy.
http://cworld.clemson.edu/Fall2000/12thday.htm
There is nothing that prevents the president from giving a medal to an
air force officer flying for the CIA
You do know that the USAF operated U2's as well?

yes of course
but later

Operational history

Though both the Air Force and the Navy would eventually fly the U-2, it
was originally a CIA operation. Due to the political implications of a
military aircraft invading a country's airspace, only CIA U-2s conducted
overflights. The pilots had to resign their military commissions before
joining the CIA as civilians, a process they referred to as "sheep
dipping".[1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_U-2



He was unquestionably engaged in an activity that was a violation of
international law. He could not have been "ordered" on the mission.
Um... Wrong.

It's an "unlawful order"

There is a difference between peacetime and wartime. The U-2
overflights violated international and domestic law. One of the reasons
we have the CIA is to have a system for dealing with the need to engage
in deliberate violations of international law.

Vince


I presume all of the people on these flights were dressed as Maytag
repairmen?

Cold war shoot downs: Part one
Air Classics, Apr 2001 by Larson, George A


DETAILING AMERICAN AIRCRAFT LOSSES IN THE DEADLY GAME Of GATHERING
INTELLIGENCE OVER THE SOVIET UNION

The Cold War between the United States and the former Soviet Union can
be traced to a diplomatic and arms race which started with a speech on
12 March 1947, in the United States. In this speech, before a Joint
Session of the United States Congress, President Harry S Tman
requested a one-time funding appropriation of $400,000,000 which
Congress approved. The funds requested were to provide military
assistance to a beleaguered Greek government to counter a Communist
insurgency in that country.

The term Cold War refers to an intense period of diplomatic and
military hostility, often through client states, blowing up during the
Cuban Missile Crisis which was a near nuclear confrontation between
the United States and the Soviet Union. This confrontation did not end
until the 1990s, with the tearing down of the Berlin Wall in Germany,
and the break up of what President Ronald Reagan referred to as the
"Evil Empire." During this Cold War, United States military aircraft
flew thousands of covert reconnaissance intelligence flights. These
intelligence collection flights gathered electronic signals and
photographic intelligence to verify and identify strategic targets in
the event of a nuclear war between the two Super Powers, and provide
the Strategic Air Command's (SAC) bombers penetration routes into the
Soviet Union.

These missions were classified top secret and considered high risk
military operations because of deliberate violations of Soviet air
space. When and where possible, the Soviet Air Force sent up fighters
to shadow US intelligence flights and to harass, intimidate, and shoot
down these aircraft. Some of these aircraft crew members were captured
by Soviet military forces, survived, and returned to US authorities.
There have been, over a period of years, supposedly live sightings of
American airmen at various confinement camps.
more

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...04/ai_n8949287



Better give names dates and places of deliberate overflights of
territory, not cruisng past the border (airspace)


Vince