On May 6, 10:19 pm, wrote:
It was a multi and I am a lowly PP-ASEL. If he is not a CFI, can he
sign my logbook as dual given?

On May 7, 1:14 am, "BT" wrote:



A Commander as in single engine or multi?
If it was single engine, and you are at least a Private Pilot SEL, then you
can log any time you were "sole manipulator" of the controls.
If you are Instrument rated, you can log that time that you were sole
manipulator in IMC.

If it was a Multi engine commander (AC690B) etc, and you do not have a multi
rating, unless he wants to sign your logbook as "dual given", then other as
a nice entry in the logbooks, it does not count for much. Same for the IMC
if you are not instrument rated.

Otherwise, an enjoyable trip. An ATP may instruct other pilots in air
transportation service (61.167b), most ATPs maintain a CFII rating, many may
not.

BT

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So I flew recently in a Commander. I was not a required crew member in
this part 91 flight. I flew right seat and an ATP was PIC. He's not a
CFI and I'm not instrument-rated.

Can I log the time in some way to count the time towards experience in
IMC or my total time? Of course I can stick it in my logbook if I feel
like it, but could it count towards anything?- Hide quoted text -

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No. The only time an ATP can sign your log book to allow you to log
the flight is if its connection with a 135 or 121 operation and he's
acting as a check pilot. Sorry to say, from my understanding, if you
were flying in a twin and do not hold any multiengine ratings, you
cannot log anything of the flight, instrument or not.

-Robert, CFII