"buttman" wrote in message
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And following Dudley's train of thought - can you prove you're a CFI?

And what would my CFI number add to the discussion? Why does it even
matter? If you don't believe I really have a CFI then you can go right
on ahead and believe that. It doesn't change what I wrote one bit. You
should judge me by my words, not my credentials.

Quite to the contrary, it's your "words" that make some pilots on these
groups question your "credentials".
Although its a fact that you don't have to post your real name on these
groups, its also a fact that many new student pilots frequent these groups.
For that reason, most of the pilots and instructors who post here are very
careful with the information they present. Although ALL information
presented on Usenet should be checked for accuracy, there is always a
potential flight safety factor in play here, especially when someone posts
using a CFI format.
I've read your posts and I have serious questions about you. Basically I'm
concerned not so much about the statements you have made but rather the
questions you have asked. In my opinion, if you are indeed a CFI as you have
stated on these groups, you should already know the answers to the questions
you are asking.
So I have a double problem with you. Your questions are suspect to me, and
your overall reasoning is suspect as well.
You are correct when you say that credentials on Usenet are not as important
as the information posted. The pilots here have been reading each other as
well as newbies for many years. Our opinions on the validity of a post is
based on years of actual experience reading what an individual poster has to
say.
With this in mind, and based only on the information you have posted to
these groups, I have to tell you that in my opinion you are either posing as
a flight instructor or a completely ill prepared CFI.
As I have said before, I personally will give you a great deal more
lattitude on the piloting group than I will on the student group. As someone
who has invested a great deal of time and effort in the instruction
business, I naturally have an aversion to bad information and will say so
when presented with same. This has nothing at all to do with being a "Usenet
Bully".



Thats the thing that
****es me off about this group; people think having credentials
automatically makes your word concrete.

Again, your reasoning and deduction is suspect.
If you will notice, hardly anyone on these groups stresses credentials. Most
of us mention them only in passing. We all realize that it's the information
that actually establishes the "credentials" on these groups. Respect here
has been earned through hundreds and in some cases thousands of postings
containing information that those reading the posts know to be factual and
correct. In this manner, "credentials" are earned on Usenet, and by no other
means.


In the other thread I made a
few weeks ago in r.a.s it was the same way. People just came in and
said "I've been an instructor for thirty years and I say its unsafe,
END OF DISCUSSION" without providing any real arguments.

Actually its longer than that, and you received precise and direct argument
stating exactly why as a CFI you don't turn off the fuel on takeoff. The
fact that you even asked this question and posed this scenario is one of the
prime reasons I suspect that you are either not a CFI or a VERY poor one.
You will notice that I'm questioning your information as well as your
"credentials."



I'm here to
argue and debate, not play the stupid "who has the biggest e-penis"
game. Anyways, even if I did give my CFI number/name people would just
say I made the number up...


Again, your powers of deductive reasoning are in my opinion, suspect.
It is not the purpose of these groups to "argue and debate". The purpose of
these groups is to SHARE useful and accurate data and information about
flying and aviation.
Its fine to argue your point, and its fine to engage in debate, but to enter
these groups for the specific purpose of arguing and debating shows a basic
lack of understanding for why the majority of people engage on these pilot
forums.
Dudley Henriques