Mike Marron wrote:

Ed Rasimus wrote:
But, we didn't go through the "mother may I" routine that I described
in the excerpt. We were "standardized" for sure, but we weren't
ritualized.

C'mon Ed, don't be so coy. You know full well that nose-gunners
could fare quite happily w/o the GIB:

Those who flew the F-4 that indicate that they could have been happier
with an extra 200 pounds of fuel in place of the WSO are in the
distinct minority. A good GIB was worth more than his weight in gold.

F-101B BEFORE LANDING CHECKLIST (RIO TO PILOT)


While that may be what the dog-earred yellow pages say, it wasn't what
went on in the airplane, not even when riding with a stan/eval type.


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (ret)
***"When Thunder Rolled:
*** An F-105 Pilot Over N. Vietnam"
*** from Smithsonian Books
ISBN: 1588341038