On Sun, 7 Sep 2003, Charles Talleyrand wrote:

Imagine four your favorite combat aircraft of 1963 going up against four modern F/A-18s in a BVR engagement. Suppose that the 1963
pilots were smart and willing to employ the best tactics available. Even so we suppose the F-18s win almost every engagement.

But how close is it? Can the 1963 aircraft get a radar lock on their enemy
(and what about modern jamming)? Can they get to within
knife-fight radius? Will they ever see the enemy or even get shot off?

Basically, how does the combat go?

Launch the nuclear-tipped Genies at maximum range.

"Close" is good enough.

Cheers and all,