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Old June 4th 07, 04:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose
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Default interesting moment yesterday on final

The object of conveying position is to let others know where you are. If
others know where you are visual acquisition may be unnecessary.


The object of conveying position is to let others know where to look for
you, so that they can =see= where you are. Otherwise we'd all be happy
with UAVs flying around. And no that's not a non-sequitor.

An accurate position and intention report is useful to any pilot that knows
where RIKKI is. It doesn't matter if they're operating IFR or VFR and it
doesn't matter how they earn their living.


They have to know where RIKKI is with respect to where they are. That's
subtlely (but importantly) different from simply knowing where RIKKI is.
They also need to know where you are =actually= going, and where they
are headed. They need to =maintain= separation. Once you are past
RIKKI, nobody knows where you are. That is where visual acquisition
comes in handy.

Whatever RIKKI is I will know where it is.


You are unusual.

Wouldn't the relevant information be all available information concerning
that flight?


No.

All information has bearing on a flight. Most information's impact is
marginal, and safely ignored. It can reasonably be argued that the
location of the last IFR stepdown fix on a newly commissioned NDB
approach whose location is only revealed on the latest IFR plates would
constitute such marginal information as it concerns a VFR flight in CAVU
conditions. It could also be reasonably argued that the location of
"the playground" is equally marginal. Until, after an accident, it
turns out that one of the aircraft reported "over the playground", and
the other aircraft should of course know exactly where he is, and his
failure to do so consitituted failure to "be familiar with all relevant
information...". (Change "the playground" to "the lady" for a more
compelling but equally valid example).

Typically the information is only on an approach plate. VFR pilots
typically do not review approach plates. Some may never have even seen
one. It is "information", it is "available". And no I don't think it is
reasonable to expect a VFR pilot to have become familiar with all IFR
approaches into an airport.

In this case the information is on the sectional aeronautical chart.


In what case? On what sectional is RIKKI?

And yes, typical VFR pilots use sectionals, and have them in the
cockpit. However, they don't memorize all the intersections, and trying
to find one on the chart one while approaching a busy pattern is not
good piloting procedure.

Jose
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