"xxx" == xxx writes:

xxx If you or anyone else who actually hires engineers has
xxx anything constructive to say about the holes in American
xxx engineering education, as one of the people who can actually
xxx do something about it, I want to hear the suggestions.

Sure, I hire entry-level engineers. Their skills are OK but can you
teach them to have a good attitude about just doing work?

The problem really isn't in our university system, it's in our
society, which only occasionally honors the thinking professions.
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"My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators." --Vice
President Dick Cheney, "Meet the Press," March 16, 2003