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Old June 8th 07, 04:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Logajan
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Matt Whiting wrote:
Jim Logajan wrote:
North Carolina is one:
"Illegal use of engineer title raises ire of profession"
http://triad.bizjournals.com/triad/s...12/focus3.html


Did you actually read this article? On page 2 it supports what I
said, not what you claim.


Hey - I doth protest! I kinda read it! Proper context sir:

"In other words, if the word engineer appears in your job title, business
card or stationary, the public can assume you have met the qualifications
to be a licensed engineer. So if non-engineers use the title, they
publicly claim to be something they're not and are offering services
they're not licensed to offer."

"Ritter says engineers must only be licensed by the state if they are
offering their services directly to the public and not just to their
employer.

For example, an engineer designing roads would have to be licensed,
but someone with engineering training working for Ford to design cars
to drive those roads would not need to be licensed."


"But, Ritter says, if the "engineer" working for Ford begins telling
people he's an engineer, he may be crossing the line.
"If he hands you his business card and it says engineer on it, he is
putting himself out in public as an engineer," he says.

I presumed from _the entire context_ that the article was suggesting that
simply making the job title "Software Engineer" public is sufficient to
be in violation of the law. Programmers exist by the ton[1] who have
"Software Engineer" on the business cards their employers give them and I
can assure you that those cards are handed out on a regular basis to
prospects, customers, vendors, friends, and family. And when they write
their resumes they will almost certainly claim the title.

I will concede, though, that you are absolutely correct that simply
having an internal company title with the term "engineer" in it is
perfectly legal. But that, I submit, is the exceptional case.

Matt (an engineer by training, by trade, and by license in two states)


Just curious, but what kind of engineering?

[1] It's a sedentary career so it doesn't take many programmers to add up
to a ton. ;-)