"kontiki" wrote in message
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Bob Noel wrote:


you never did any dsp code? Some of the software developers I'm
working with now are doing a considerable amount of math (the
exact nature of this application is sensitive so I won't go into
details)


Exactly. It's obvious Matt has never done any serious
design and development of bleeding edge software,

How much of current (and past) software development is "bleeding edge"?

so he
just calls software engineers 'geeks' in order to marginalize
the whole thing and make himself feel better.

How many software "engineers" are actually mere "programmers"?

I recall many teenagers doing "software". I even recall many such places
being called "hobby shops".

Personally I've met just as many geek hardware guys as
software guys and I've worked in both environments.

Im not a software person, but I would suspect, based on the handful of
programs I wrote many years ago, that HARDWARE actaully requires/uses
engineering principles that software misses, or, being more abstract,
doesn't support.

IOW, software is more and ART, whereas hardware and other tangibles, are
true ENGINEERING projects.