"Paul J. Adam" wrote in message ...
The F-4 never even sees the enemy? It should see the enemy from
30 miles away unless someone jams them, and most F-18s don't
have jamming ability (I think).

What pods are the F/A-18s carrying, and/or who's escorting it?

30 miles head-on is well inside the published AMRAAM envelope: by the
time the F-4s see the enemy, they've already got missiles inbound (but
are still well outside published Sparrow range, even head-on).

Would _you_ assume that the difficult blips on your radar were some sort
of time-travelling superfighter? Even if you did, what could you do?

I would likely die. I would rather eject. Maybe utrning tail and running
would work????? But it's bad all the way.

My question is .. do the F-4s see the F-18s or the incoming missiles at all?
Sure, they lose the battle but do they even see (on radar) the enemy at all.
I'm pretty sure the answer is "no" if the F-18s come in low, so what
if the F-18s come in high?