Actually, with respect to maintaining one g into the seat and doing a
kind of roll, you can, or at least Newton says so, but I'm not sure
the airplane exists that has the control authority to do it. If you
search the groups you'll be able to find the analysis, but the short
form is this. The airplane has got to accelelerate downward at 1 G,
then pull a G in a coordinated bank. It'll roll, but it won't be
pretty, and the pilot will feel 1 G into the seat.

The diameter of the roll is something like 80 feet! Almost a snap
roll.

Think of it this way, and you'll be able to see how it works. If you
roll into a level bank, you'll feel increasing Gs. If, on the other
hand, you push over, you'll feel decreasing Gs. Somewhere between the
two, a coordinated bank and a push over, you'll be able to feel 1 G.

Give it a try a few times when you're flying aerobatics, and I'll bet
you can get to 45 or even 60 degrees of bank in a decending term with
your G meter locked at one before you run out of control authority.



On Jun 10, 8:52 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
wrote roups.com:

There was a thread a while ago about how not only could one stay with
the force into the seat, but actually maintain 1 G straight into the
seat through a roll.

You can't.

If one is flying coordinated, keeping normal to

the airplane makes sense. Those how fly aerobatics have a different
set of criteria.

Nope, I fly aerobatics.

Quite well, too.

The criteria is the same, only the level of undrstanding changes.

For what it's worth, watching the in cockpit cameras

of some moderatedly skilled pilots, like the Blue Angels, shows them
"upright" with respect to the airplane except when G forces sling
their heads around, but they do fly coordinated most of the time.

But what do they know?

Exactly. But fjukkwit won't buy it..

Bertie





On Jun 10, 8:35 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote
:

writes:

If the turn is coordinated, there is no "sideways" force to
perceive as that is the definition of a cooridinated turn.

False. The aircraft is being accelerated to one side.

Nope, wrong again, moron.

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