On Jun 14, 1:42 pm, "gatt" wrote:
"xyzzy" wrote in message

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On Jun 14, 12:34 pm, "gatt" wrote:

He says with pax and sufficient runway
he doesn't apply full power on takeoff until he reaches 40mph; that way,
they don't feel like they're being launched off a carrier deck or
something.

Ummm. what does he fly? I've NEVER flown an airplane that would give
anybody that impression.

182. His point is that the pax should only barely perceive the transition
from a stop to forward motion.

That's an interesting perspective but I'm not sure I agree. In my
experience nervous pax are more comforted the more airliner-like the
experience is, and airliners certainly take off with brisk
acceleration.

As a matter of fact I've taken two nervous pax. One was happy as soon
as he saw me using checklists because that made it professional-
looking and he didn't worry I was forgetting something important. The
other one had an interesting debrief, what he told me was that it
seemed too "floaty" taking off in a small plane, which after trying to
get what he means out of him, I think was related to the relatively
low airspeed, especially as compared with the winds, of the small
plane at liftoff time -- which would argue for trying to get speed up
ASAP, and rotating a ahigher speed than usual so the rotation is more
firm and airliner-like. Airliners feel like they are on rails when
they take off, small planes get bounced around more.

In a 182--he says--rear pax can feel like their asses are dragging the
ashpalt if you hold the nose too high in the flare whereas in the Arrow it's
not so bad, but it's much more difficult to keep the nose wheel off without
bouncing.

Well, Cessnas do all seem to flare at a higher deck angle than
pipers. I've been in the backseat of a 172 that was being landed in a
crosswind by a commercial pilot, and I can understand exactly what he
means. Pipers do land more airliner-like IMO.

Probably different pax experience it differently.