Thought it was 158 seconds before he loses orientation and then whatever it
takes to crash into the hard edge of the sky.

mike

"george" wrote in message
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Berties right!
You are every thing he says..
FYI a noninstument rated pilot entering IFR conditions has about 90
seconds of life remaining.
The resulting high speed spiral dive is a result losing all visual
references and becoming disorientated in cloud...