"Dick" wrote in message
news:byvfi.3176$cV.223@trnddc04...
After taking some rigorous Unusual Attitudes Training, now I can't do a
smooth Lazy Eight to save my soul G (or comfort my wife).

One item the course taught me was a Modified Wingover which allowed a
blind canyon 180* turn within a wingspan. Entry at 30* pitch & 30* bank
proceeding to 60* pitch & 60* bank at 90* point to entry. Then at 0 mph,
the nose falls without rudder assist and ball is too the side.

My procedure for the Lazy 8: entry at 15/15* P&B, then up to 30/30* P&B
at 90* to entry and down to 5-10 mph over stall using proper rudder
control and centered ball.

Unfortunately after I look left over the wing to line up with the entry
point and initiate first pitch/bank, I'm then at the 90* point and still
too fast.....

Advice please. Thanks, Dick

What you're describing we used to call a split "S" entry. Roll over and pull
out - if you have elevation. Used to do it in an old Champ regularly. - no
negative g's. Not recommended for planes not certified, but if dying is the
alternative?

Who the hell's dumb enough to fly up a blind canyon below the rim?