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Old June 26th 07, 12:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bill Daniels
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Default New trainer from SZD Bielsko


"Dan G" wrote in message
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On Jun 25, 7:21 pm, "Bill Daniels" bildan@comcast-dot-net wrote:

How about watching the airspeed? If you maintain a margin over the
loaded
stall speed, there no chance of stalling.

As for the ASK-21, you don't gain anything from pulling back anyway. The
highest winch launches are when the glider is flown at the best L/D angle
of
attack - that's about neutral elevator..


Bill - Ian was being sarcastic...


Dan


OK, I accept the sarcasm and appologise for being sharp.

However, in the US there are many glider pilots who have never flown a winch
launch and instinctively fear nose high attitudes. Even joking about full
up elevator and stalls on the wire is terrifying to them. I felt I had to
make it clear that you should not be anywhere near the stalling AOA.

Adding to my concern is that the ubiquitous US Schweizer 2-33 does use full
up elevator on a winch launch due to the unfortunate position of the release
hook. A pilot transitioning to even a docile a trainer like a ASK-21 could
be in trouble if he misunderstands the difference.

It also concerns me that pilots with much experience on aero tow
transitioning to winch launch may have never considered the need to monitor
airspeed on a launch since the tug pilot has always done that for them.

Bill Daniels