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Old July 20th 07, 04:37 PM posted to alt.global-warming,rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke[_2_]
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"Eeyore" wrote:


So, on that basis you can wave away the scientific consensus on the
subject?


Alleged (and alleged is all it is)


Really?

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Science 3 December 2004:
Vol. 306. no. 5702, p. 1686


IPCC is not alone in its conclusions. In recent years, all major scientific
bodies in the United States whose members' expertise bears directly on the
matter have issued similar statements. For example, the National Academy of
Sciences report, 'Climate Change Science: An Analysis of Some Key Questions',
begins: "Greenhouse gases are accumulating in Earth's atmosphere as a result
of human activities, causing surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean
temperatures to rise." The report explicitly asks whether the IPCC assessment
is a fair summary of professional scientific thinking, and answers yes: "The
IPCC's conclusion that most of the observed warming of the last 50 years is
likely to have been due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations
accurately reflects the current thinking of the scientific community on this
issue."

Others agree. The American Meteorological Society, the American Geophysical
Union, and the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) all
have issued statements in recent years concluding that the evidence for human
modification of climate is compelling.

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Perhaps you can offer some evidence in refutation of the above.



'consensus' proves nothing.


Correct. But to wave it away on no empirical basis is foolish.


I suppose you'd wave away the very well argued objections to the IPCC case
?


Indeed not. I have spent a good deal of time examining such objections, and
have not found any that are destructive to the case made in IPCC 4AR.

I'd be grateful if you could post links to some that you think are 'very well
argued.'


convincing and scientifically sound case wouldn't need to rely on making
such
claims.


You mean claims like the one made by deniers that all the IPCC scientists are
distorting the findings so they'll get paid?


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Dan


"The opposite of science is not religion; the opposite of science is wishful
thinking."


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