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"Milen E. Lazarov" wrote:

On 2007-07-23, karl gruber wrote:
Not with DME, you'll be at 680 far before CULVE.

If you cannot identify CULVE, you descent to 1120 after BEVEY
and wait to see the runway or go missed at the VOR.
If you can identify CULVE, you descent to 680 after BEVEY and
wait to see the runway or go missed at the VOR.
So what does really identifying CULVE do for you if you are
already down to 680 by the the time you identify it?

As I hope everyone's now aware -- for safety's sake, if nothing else,
since I fly that approach every now and then, and there are some
heavily-peopled buildings with heights above 680' close to the approach
centreline between BEVEY and CULVE -- *you cannot go below 1120' MSL
before CULVE unless you're on the visual*, regardless of whether you can
identify CULVE or not.

There's simply nothing ambiguous about this on the approach plate I'm
looking at....

Hamish