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B A R R Y wrote:

Ron Garret wrote:
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"Bob Gardner" wrote:

I hate to blow Karl's cover, but he flies a jet for the Microsoft
millionaire who just visited the space station for 25 million bucks.

So what? That he works for Charles Simonyi doesn't change the fact that
he is wrong.

Karl is right.

According to the NACO chart I pulled up via Airnav, with DME you can
begin descending to 680 at BEVEY.

You have to stay @ 1120 'till CULVE only if DME is not available.

Dear God -- not this again. Karl has already admitted he was wrong and
graciously apologised for heaping crap on those who disagreed with his
interpretation. It's astonishing to think that there are
instrument-rated pilots out there who'd descend below 1120 much before
CULVE in IMC -- take a look at the obstructions....

If you're familiar with NACO charts, it's hard to see how there's any
ambiguity about this: you cannot descend below 1120 before CULVE
regardless of whether or not you have DME unless you're on the visual.
The Jepp charts make this even clearer.

Hamish