"Ron" wrote in message
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cans. The water bomber crash was bad for the C-130, but good for
Bombardier.

And again, not entirely true

No Rob, it is entirely true that what happened is good for Bombardier.
If
you were to choose to acquire even the most basic understanding of the
opertion of these quasi-public aircraft you would know that the "oldest
airframe" is the first launched. Bombardier's fire bombers are new and
subject to waiting a long long time before they are used today. A chnge
in
the law is likely, due to the fact that old aircraft are more prone to
falling out of the sky.

I didnt say it was not true at all...

You wrote something silly, Ron.

I am sure they might get some additional
orders, but those new Bombardier CL-415s are really expensive. They are
good
at what they do though, not denying that at all.

It is operational rules that styfle Bombardier's sales, not cost. Do you
have any idea what it costs to launch those radial engine relics out of Fox
Field? The USAF is crying now at the cost of keeping 707s flying.

They are two different aircraft that would be best in two different
environments. In big wide open areas with lots of lakes, like much of
southern
Canada, and Minnesota, those scoopers are great.

Poor Ron, makes a false premise and then expands into more ignorance.

mmmmm okay

There are plenty of man made lakes to scoop from in the Southwest.

But in the weste n states, the scoopers would not be near as useful.
Alpine
lakes surrounded by mountain peaks at around 10,000 MSL are not very
good
places to be trying to scoop water, especially during a summer day.

Get back with us afeter you purchase a vowel, Ron.

Now that wasnt really neccessary John. I have never said a bad or
personal
thing about you on here, even if I disagreed with you.

"And again, not entirely true "

I take that as a personal insult.

I have respect for you Ron, as most of your posts are well thought out, but
since Dudley has taken his insults into the real world people in the real
world have been harmed. Even some Canadians are finding themselves DK'd,
over the trolls tantrum.

My point was that the retardant tankers are not neccesarily just
interchangable
with the scooper type tankers. I have fought fire, both on the ground as
a
wildland firefighter, and also as an air attack/recon pilot, on fires that
a
scooper type would be as worthless as tits on a frog.

Age of airframe is the fire bomber issue, from an operational standpoint.

From the Canadian standpoint, interchangability of parts is the issue and
that is true through the H model. in fact, Oz may have some Hs they mioght
be ready to sell.

But areas with a lot of accessable water, that is not highly mountainous,
can
be an ideal place for a Bombardier Cl215 or 415 tanker. Brainerd
Minnesota I
believe has on based there during the summer. In some areas, they get
lots of
use, and are far better than a heavy type, like a C-130A...

That C-130 folding up on live video was not good for the immage of the type.

All aviation is politics.