Dingo wrote:

First thought it was a DC 7 .... but I haven't seen/heard one of those in
probably 50 years. But even so, and given the state of my memory, DC7s etc
didn't have this sort of engine sound. I can only say that some of our
local tractors sound sweeter than this kite which I think was an Ilyushin
IL 18.

Unlikely, since I guess you are describing the sound of piston engines, and
the Il-18 is powered by turboprops. From the picture, it also looks rather
like radials, but it's awfully hard to tell. Given the shape of the
tailplane, a DC-6/7 is not that unlikely.

and whilst I'm here can any of you chaps
put an ID on the other a/c here ? Sent to me by a friend who thinks it
might be Italian. I'm not so sure, but ..........

Looks like an ekranoplan. Italian is unlikely, the flag visible on the tail
has horizontal stripes. It could be the German flag. The Germans developed,
built and tested the first Western ekranoplan, the RFB X-113, on Lake
Constance in the seventies. For comparison, see this shot:

http://tinyurl.com/24onan

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