"John R Weiss" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote...

That would be expected, but in newer airliners, the operator is not
really
supposed to even operate the rudder.

Hmmm... Not what Boeing and the FAA say when an engine quits...

Engine failure would be about the only condition where the operators feet
should be pushing those pedals.