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"karl gruber" wrote:


Yes, flaps need power and the 150 just doesn't have it. The 172 is a
little better, but the 182 really begins to show what flaps combined with
power can do for takeoff.

Matt

Vx is without flaps in a 182.

Karl

On my '57 model 182 there are two Vx speeds...one for flaps 20 and one
for flaps up.