On Sep 3, 1:36 pm, "Vaughn Simon"
wrote:
"Ol Shy & Bashful" wrote in oglegroups.com...

I'm really sick and tired of flight instructors who are
afraid of doing stalls

It shocks me, but I do run into these types.

and have NEVER done a spin because they are
afraid of them.

How do you get to be a CFI in the USA without having done spins at least
once? It is still required right?

As a student, I requested spin training before solo. It caused a bit of a
problem because they had to scare up chutes to stay legal, but they made it
happen. I ain't no stunt pilot, but I have never been afraid of an intentional
stall.

As an instructor, I felt that my required spin training was sufficient to
keep me and my student alive should an unintentional spin occur (such as a
botched stall recovery). I was perfectly happy to leave the spin training to
more experienced CFI's.

Vaughn


Are parachutes required for spins in the U.S.? Not here in
Canada. Spin training is required for both Private and Commercial, and
shows up on the Commercial flight test. Now here's the conundrum:
Inadvertent stall/spins kill as many in Canada as they do in the U.S.
The training doesn't seem to prevent it. As a local friend said
recently, "You can't change stupid." Learning spin entry and recovery
by rote doesn't increase awareness of the situations that can bring it
on, and Transport Canada now wants to see spin scenario training.
Things like the low-speed skidding turn, departure stall, climbing
turn stalls and accelerated stalls, all the things that lead to a
spin. The pilot who wants to be an intelligent and safe pilot will
read up on the subject (see Kerschner) and get some scenario training.
I'll bet a lot of victims utter these last words: "Hey! What
happened?"

Dan