On Sep 5, 4:50 am, B A R R Y wrote:
joe wrote:

So, say I go to that airport and do touch and go's? What FAR prevents
me from doing it? what could they violate me with?

Whatever happened to respect for others?

If I'm not intimately familiar with the local politics and inner
workings of a field, I can't claim to know exactly why they don't want
T&G's. The statement can be a _request_ as much as it can be a rule,
but we don't know that.

Maybe there have been accidents. Maybe it's noise sensitivity. Maybe
it's some totally inane reason none of us would agree with.

If it's posted, shouldn't we respect it?

The reason I brought the issue up is because just about every night I
fly cross country with one of my students to this airport that has a
24 hour cafe. We leave at sundown, since it's relatively easy to get a
plane scheduled for such a long flight. Over the weeks, I've kind of
developed a routine of instrument approaches to have my students do.

Theres this one approach that I want to add to my routine (ILS 2 @
SAC), but they have a noise abatement policy that states "no touch and
go's, no practice approaches". All I want to do is shoot the ILS, put
the wheels down, add power, then depart somewhere else. I'll even do a
full stop

When I first read it, I thought they just meant they didn't want
people buzzing around in the pattern multiple times, nor did they not
want people constantly jamming in the throttle at DA multiple times,
for hours on end. When I asked other pilots that they thought, they
all agreed that it meant simply "don't land here at all at night"

The way I see it, if they didn't want anybody landing there at all
after dark, they'd bluntly state in the noise abatement policy "no
transient activity after such and such local time". The way it's
worded now, you can land and do a full stop/taxi back without any
trouble. So why would they allow you to do one full stop, but not one
touch and go? Even if you want to argue that one touch and go creates
more noise than one full stop/taxi back, it is enough to justify
banning them all together?

So would I be in accordance with the noise abatement policy if I just
did one ILS, land, then quietly depart? The way I see it, I'm not
making any more noise than a transient that decides to land there,
taxi off to get fuel, then departs again.