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Old September 11th 07, 06:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Fred the Red Shirt
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On Sep 10, 6:43 am, Steve Hix
wrote:
In article ,
Jim Logajan wrote:

Mark Hickey wrote:
[...] willful ignorance of history.


Speaking of history (and ignorance, I suppose), I believe _the_ reason
stated for invading Iraq was to neutralize their WMD.


Nope. It was one of a list of a dozen or sixteen items, and not the
first on the list.


How about if you refer us to that specific list? That way
we can check on how many of those 16 items have been
addressed.

Mind, the press in general grabbed that one item and
ran with it, pretty much ignoring the rest of the list, including things
like Iraq's open and long-time ongoing support for terrorism all over
the place,


"All over the place?" Where, besides Israel?


having started and fought a couple three wars with neighbors,
and so on.


Two, I think, see below.


None found.


Not quite. Actually several bits, here and there, mostly leftovers from
the Iran/Iraq matches of the 80s.

Don't forget that essentially every national (as in various nations in
both hemispheres) intelligence service figured from the evidence they
managed to dig up that if they didn't have WMDs in stock and ready to
use (the majority consensus), they could gin 'em up pretty quickly.


What they said, and what they thought, are not necessarily the
same. Deception is an essential component of intelligence
activities.

Iraq
certainly showed no reluctance to use chemical weapons in particular
against either the Iranians or against various of their own citizens.
Repeatedly.


It is important to note that hte last use of Iraqi WMD was in 1989,
thirteen years prior to the invasion. While he might have been
able to 'gin them up quickly' we were also capable of bombing
the crap out of him, even quicker.

By 2003, Iraq lad lost the capacity to threaten military action
against neighboring states. Saddam Hussein didn't even
control the Northern third of his own country, and couldn't
fly a military aircraft over or turn on a military radar in two
thirds of his country without having it shot down or blown
up.

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FF