On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:12:55 -0000, Jim Logajan
wrote in :

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 06:44:17 -0700, RL Anderson
wrote in
:

Here's a link to one of the most stupid ideas coming out of the
Department Of Homeland Security:

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/196127-1.html

Are you able to cite specific changes this proposal would require that
are not already required?

To paraphrase what you wrote in response to someone else on another thread:

Perhaps you might consider actually reading the news article and follow the
link it provides to the proposed rule change instead of admitting your
laziness and ignorance publicly in a worldwide forum.

Your paraphrase is inaccurate. I didn't assert an admitted uninformed
opinion as the author of the article I followed up did. I requested
more information. You are capable of discerning the difference,
aren't you.

Anyway, since you insist on asking a question that you could have answered
yourself had you bothered to read the article,

Your presumption is inaccurate. I read it. I didn't see anything new
of significance, so I requested more information about what would
change. I haven't made any international flights recently, but as I
recall it was necessary to provide most of the information this NPRM
mandates when dealing with inbound and outbound Customs agents anyway.

I'll try to summarize for you by quoting some of what the DHS says will
now be required that was not required before.

Thank you.

Quoted material before the ellipsis summarizes existing
requirements, material after ellipsis summarizes new requirements:

"The advance notice of arrival requires information about the number of
alien passengers and number of U.S. citizen passengers, but it does not
require any identifying information for individual passengers onboard to be
submitted. The current regulations do not provide a specific timeframe when
the notice of arrival shall be given, but direct that the pilot shall
furnish such information far enough in advance to allow inspecting officers
to reach the place of first landing of the aircraft.
...
Under this rule, CBP is proposing regulatory changes that include requiring
the advance electronic information of notice of arrival combined with
passenger manifest data for those aboard private aircraft that arrive in
and depart from the United States. Additionally, this rule proposes
amendments regarding notice of arrival requirements, landing rights, and
departure requirements."

I don't see anything particularly burdensome there, but of course, we
are lacking specifics about notice of arrival requirements, landing
rights, and departure requirements.

Presumably most airports of entry have the means to convey electronic
roster submissions. The one hour advance notice seems reasonable to
me, as Customs delays can often exceed that. What am I missing?