La N wrote:
"Vince" wrote in message
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Fred J. McCall wrote:
"La N" wrote:

: :"Vince" wrote in message
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McCall wrote: : "La N" wrote: :
: : : :"Vince" wrote in message :
... : : Fred
J. McCall wrote: : : "La N"
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: : : So in 1917 Britain had nothing to give : : : :
: : : And yet oddly they wound up with it. : : : :
Funny how that works, don't you think? : : : : [No, you
don't, which is your problem.] : : : : : : : :Thank
you. I'm going to read up more on this when I have the :
time. : : : : : : : Just don't ask Vinnie's advice.
He'll almost inevitably mess it up. : : : : : : It's
the same as a car thief stealing on demand : : : : you sell
what you don't own, so you go out and steal it : : : : :
:But, Vince, why? oh, why? : : : : Because Vinnie suffers
from the Irish Disease - an over fondness for : drink and an
unreasoning hatred of the English. : : It's the same bull****
response his Bush Derangement Syndrome causes. : Only the
target is different. Unreasoning reaction is easier than :
thinking, particularly when drinking... : : : Note the lack of
facts : When the facts get in Fred's way : He resorts to abuse
: :

Poor Vinnie. Reality never gets in his way.

Vinnie thinks his loathing for the English (and Bush) and his
unthinking reaction when talking about either aren't 'facts' and
that noticing them is 'abuse'.
Again a fine example of Bush logic Clearly at the 99th percentile
of Republican intelligence

Just keep reading the dates

: : : The record, the time line and Jack Straws comments speak
for themselves : :

And so does the historical record. Germany had bugger all to do
with "the Jews getting a Homeland", since such was proposed LONG
before.

My goodness what ignorance

Germany was involved in a war with England and its ally was the
Ottoman empire. England expected to take Palestine from Germany's
ally, in the same way France expected to get territory directly
from Germany etc. The promise was made to thank the Zionists for
their support of the English war effort against the Germans

What would be the definitive book or site for this information,
Vince?


- nilita


For a quick cite

Britannica Concise
Chaim Weizmann
born Nov. 27, 1874, Motol, Pol., Russian Empire
died Nov. 9, 1952, Reovot, Israel

Russian-born Israeli chemist and first president of Israel (1949–52).

After studying in Germany and Switzerland, he earned a doctorate in
chemistry and patented several dyestuffs before moving to England to
teach in 1904. His 1912 discovery of a bacterium that could convert
carbohydrate to acetone proved of great value to the British armaments
industry in World War I (1914–18), and in return the government aided
his negotiations for the Balfour Declaration (1917).


1916 - The secret Sykes-Picot Agreement was signed May 16 carving up
the Mideast between England and France. Weizmann had been influential in
the diplomacy leading to the agreement, insuring that Palestine would be
internationalized and later become the Zionist state. Many British Jews
opposed transferring national allegiance from Great Britain to Palestine
during wartime. Weizmann therefore urged Great Britain to publicly
support Palestine, and his greatest achievement in the Zionist movement
was the alliance with the British government that culminated in the 1917
Balfour Declaration.

http://history.sandiego.edu/GEN/ww1/weizmann.html


No Germany, no war, no cordite shortage no Zionist influence
No Balfour declaration

Vince