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: : : : So in 1917 Britain had nothing to give : :
: : : : : And yet oddly they wound up with it. :
: : : Funny how that works, don't you think? : :
: : [No, you don't, which is your problem.] : : :
: : : : :Thank you. I'm going to read up more on
this when I have the : time. : : : : : : : Just
don't ask Vinnie's advice. He'll almost inevitably mess it
up. : : : : : : It's the same as a car thief
stealing on demand : : : : you sell what you don't own,
so you go out and steal it : : : : : :But, Vince,
why? oh, why? : : : : Because Vinnie suffers from the
Irish Disease - an over fondness for : drink and an
unreasoning hatred of the English. : : It's the same
bull**** response his Bush Derangement Syndrome causes. :
Only the target is different. Unreasoning reaction is easier
than : thinking, particularly when drinking... : : :
Note the lack of facts : When the facts get in Fred's way :
He resorts to abuse : :
Poor Vinnie. Reality never gets in his way.
Vinnie thinks his loathing for the English (and Bush) and his
unthinking reaction when talking about either aren't 'facts'
and that noticing them is 'abuse'.
Again a fine example of Bush logic Clearly at the 99th
percentile of Republican intelligence
Just keep reading the dates
: : : The record, the time line and Jack Straws comments
speak for themselves : :
And so does the historical record. Germany had bugger all to
do with "the Jews getting a Homeland", since such was
proposed LONG before.
My goodness what ignorance
Germany was involved in a war with England and its ally was the
Ottoman empire. England expected to take Palestine from
Germany's ally, in the same way France expected to get
territory directly from Germany etc. The promise was made to
thank the Zionists for their support of the English war effort
against the Germans
What would be the definitive book or site for this information,
Vince?
- nilita
For a quick cite
Britannica Concise Chaim Weizmann born Nov. 27, 1874, Motol, Pol.,
Russian Empire died Nov. 9, 1952, Reovot, Israel
Russian-born Israeli chemist and first president of Israel
(1949–52).
After studying in Germany and Switzerland, he earned a doctorate in
chemistry and patented several dyestuffs before moving to England
to teach in 1904. His 1912 discovery of a bacterium that could
convert carbohydrate to acetone proved of great value to the
British armaments industry in World War I (1914–18), and in return
the government aided his negotiations for the Balfour Declaration
(1917).
1916 - The secret Sykes-Picot Agreement was signed May 16 carving
up the Mideast between England and France. Weizmann had been
influential in the diplomacy leading to the agreement, insuring
that Palestine would be internationalized and later become the
Zionist state. Many British Jews opposed transferring national
allegiance from Great Britain to Palestine during wartime. Weizmann
therefore urged Great Britain to publicly support Palestine, and
his greatest achievement in the Zionist movement was the alliance
with the British government that culminated in the 1917 Balfour
Declaration.
http://history.sandiego.edu/GEN/ww1/weizmann.html
No Germany, no war, no cordite shortage no Zionist influence No
Balfour declaration
The Jews, mostly from Russia, had been moving into the area since the
1880's buying up land from largely absentee Turkish landlords and
this would have continued anyway. By the time of the annexation of
the area by the British the Jewish populace was already seriously on
the way to becoming a majority. Something which the Arabs were very
worried about - as are most people who are in danger of becoming
outnumbered by an immigrant population. It was the British who
imposed serious limits on further immigration and land purchase.
The December 1931 British census of the country showed that of the 1.04
million people, 84 percent were Arab and 16 percent were Jewish.
While Jews in 1922 owned 3 percent of the land of Palestine, the
additional land purchased by 1947 raised the total owned by the
immigrant Jews to 7 percent of the whole area of the country.
http://palestinecenter.org/palestine...shmandate.html
yes I know its a palestinain source but the figures are British
vince