On Oct 2, 2:48?am, Roger Conroy wrote:
BlackBeard wrote:
On Oct 1, 6:11 pm, Kerryn Offord wrote:
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Maybe no more vulnerable to being shot at.. but the effect of being hit?

Although there are no perfect survivability systems out there, the
systems on the Osprey are 1) more numerous and 2) more advanced, than
the survivability systems on the CH-46

SNIP

If it has a cobra escort.. Well.. It loses it's altitude/ speed
advantage over alternative modern helicopters..

Rendevous scenario. The Cobras launch from a forward base and meet at
the LZ with the Osprey which has travelled from a base further away.

BB

Is the Cobra really the only possible escort?
I'm thinking that the AV-8 could do a pretty decent job during the
high speed transit phase.

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AV-8's go too fast to really see what is on the ground. An AV-8 can't
supress a treeline the way a Cobra can.

I recall reading in the Marine Corps Gazette back in the early 1980's
what you've seen me post:

1. Doesn't matter what the range and speed of the V-22 is. It is
limited to the range and speed of the escorts

2. The V-22 needs guns of its own, and not one that fires backwards
either. If the rotors are tilted forward then no door gunner can get
a useful firing arc forward due to the arc of the rotors.

3. A chin turret was discussed (being the only reasonable option) but
that was eliminated due to cost.

I remember seeing this info in the MCG about 25 years ago.

The freaking thing is a grotesque boondoggle. It will never be
anything else.

I posted a video of a V-22 crash and some of the info I am posting now
on the website togetherweserved.com, which is for Marines only, and I
was banned within 24 hours.

Walt