Greg Esres wrote in news:1191892903.908004.61860
@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

No, and with full flaps it pull an greater aoa for the same
authority(down force). It stalls. And the nose can drop real hard. As
the stab moves into ground effect the aoa increases also.

Sorry, I was thinking of a horizontal stabilizer/elevator combo.
Still, the lift coefficient of the horizontal tail most likely doesn't
get near Clmax. I regularly make full stall landings with the Seneca
using 40 degree flaps.The tail doesn't stall. If the nose drops, it's
a physical strength issue.

But the seneca nose gears take a pounding because of the way they
are flown. It
leads to failures.

The British did a very elaborate analysis of the nose gear on the
Seneca and didn't think that was a factor.


Why would they have done that? Well, I guess since there's no British
airplanes to pic at...

But haven't they got enough on their plate trying to figure out why 146's
and RB211s are poisoning their pax?

Bertie