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Old October 12th 07, 10:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Default Does VFR Operation Require A High Level Of Language Proficiency?

On Oct 9, 12:00 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Larry Dighera wrote innews




On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:10:09 -0000, "Robert M. Gary"
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On Oct 9, 4:41 am, Larry Dighera wrote:
Does VFR Operation Require A High Level Of Language Proficiency? It
looks like some in Europe would think it might:


IAOPA WINS LANGUAGE REPRIEVE
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#196325)
The International Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association has
successfully lobbied the International Civil Aviation Organization
(ICAO) to delay by three years implementation of onerous language
proficiency rules it says would severely limit VFR flight in much
of Europe. Under the ICAO proposal, all pilots would require to
demonstrate a high level of proficiency in either English or the
language of the country in which they are flying. In an interview
with AVweb at AOPA Expo in Hartford, IAOPA General Secretary John
Sheehan said the rule makes sense for IFR operations but not for
recreational flyers. "For VFR people it doesn't make any sense,"
Sheehan said. "I don't think [VFR] requires a high level of
[language] proficiency."


Given the US's provision for NORDO VFR operations, that has probably
been in the regulations since their inception, one can only conclude
that VFR operation doesn't even require any communication at all.


Most pilots would consider NORDO to be an emergency operation.


ATC controller, Mr. McNicoll does it all the time, as does Mr. Ford. I
doubt they would concur.


All public use airports need communication.


At controlled fields, light signals are quite effective for
communications, and they require no language ability.


Flying into an airport (even a very small one) without talking could
certainly be considered careless or reckless.


For some folks, flight of any kind might qualify as careless and
reckless, but the fact is, that the CFRs permit aircraft without
electrical systems (and hence radios) to operate at public use
airports, and it routinely occurs.


I haven't the time right now to research the NTSB database, but it
would be enlightening to know how the percentage of NORADO flights
that result in being the cause of or contribute to incidents and
accidents.


Don't get me wrong. If I were flying an aircraft certified without an
electrical system, you can bet I'd have a handheld radio. But that's
just me. I'm a cautious sort; I'd have a backup handheld too.


If you're that reliant on ATC do you carry matches so you can set your
seats on fire for smoke signals?


That's got to be the most sophomoric logic fallacy I've ever heard.

-Robert