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Old October 16th 03, 01:25 AM
Thomas Schoene
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"phil hunt" wrote in message

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:48:52 -0600, Scott Ferrin
wrote:
Well it's good to dream but I'd say wait until the F-35C is flying
before making that judgement. That big wing, 56k lbs thrust (so
says RR)


Who's RR? The figure I've seen for thrust is 35 klbf (15900 kgf),


Rolls-Royce. They're working with GE on the F136 engine, which is the
alternative to the Pratt Whitney F135 specified for the first JSF batches.
The 56,000-lb figure came from Rolls-Ryce a couple of years ago; everyone
else is sticking to "40,000-lb class" for both F135 and F136.


The AIM-9X will have a shorter range than the Meteor (I'm assuming
that Singapore would buy it, it seems quite logical if they are
going for an air superiority fighter). S


Here you're comapring apples and oranges. AIM-9X is a dogfight missile; the
Eurofighter counterpart is ASRAAM. Meteor is a BVR missile; the US
counterpart is AMRAAM (which is shorter ranged) or one of several proposed
AMRAAM gowth options.

o the Typhoons would be able
to get the first shot in (not only that, since they are faster than
the F-35, they have the ability to decide at what range the
engagement takes place). If the engagement does get to close range,
the Typhoon has (according to figures I've seen) a better thrust to
weight ratio and lower wing loading. F-35 has thrust vectoring, but
late models of the Typhoon might too.


JSF does not have thrust vectoring, the tail nozzle moves only for vertical
flight.

Typhoon is dynamically
unstable, which should increase its maneouvrability.


But are like to the be dynamically unstable.

(BTW, is it right that the F-35's weapons bay is too small to fit in
some weapons like ASRAAM? My understanding is ASRAAM has a larger
diameter than AIM-9X, giving it potential for greater
range/acceleration).


The bays are designed for AMRAAM and 2000-lb JDAMS. ASRAAM will certainly
fit, but Meteor may not.

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